And hello everybody, welcome to the Untitled Jeff Luck podcast. I am the host Jeff Luck. Bob Pockress is here with me,

and he's already snickering at the title of the podcast. So you know it's going to be a fun interview.

We are looking out at the Phoenix International Raceway. Actually, it's really Phoenix Raceway.

The wall says Phoenix International Raceway still, but it's really Phoenix Raceway. The wall says Phoenix International Raceway still,

but it's really Phoenix Raceway now. Right on the start, finish time, we're looking out at the track

after a very surprising win today. First of all, Bob Packress from ESPN.com. How are you? I'm doing good.

I want to say that we should call the podcast, buy a Jeff Gluck hat podcast.

That would be my vote.

You too, Bob, huh?

You too.

Yeah, apparently Dealer and Hart Jr. wants you to start selling some hat that you bought.

This is the hat.

I'm wearing the hat right now.

It's just a golf hat. Okay, so

Mark Long from the Associated Press, who works with Jennifer Friar in Daytona, he had a really

cool hat on during Daytona. And I thought that this year, being on my own, I probably shouldn't

wear like logoed hats. You know, I want to look somewhat professional, but I got to wear a hat because I'm a

ginger and I burn very easily. So I don't want to get skin cancer. So I went up to Mark Long at

Daytona and I said, hey, where did you get that hat? And he's like, oh, it's Travis Matthew hat. And I'm like,

I don't know what that is. He's like, oh, it's this golf designer. He makes a lot of hats. They don't have like logos on or whatever. So this Mark

Long guy who lives in Florida, I mean, it works for him. So I got a similar hat, not the same one.

And now look at it. It's like everybody wants the hat. People are just nonstop on the Twitter

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