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We're getting a clearer idea of what the post-pandemic American economy might look like.

And you know, based on history, there'll be some good things and there may be some bad things too.

These pandemics and wars and that sort of thing force people to re-evaluate their

little lives and lots of ways and make them realize that actually life is quite short and

precious and maybe gives them a sense of actually I'm going to you know try and do something really

amazing. From the home offices of civic ventures in downtown Seattle,

this is pitchfork economics with Nick Hanauer, the best place to get the truth about who gets what

and why. I'm Nick Hanauer, founder of Civic Ventures. I'm David Goldstein, senior fellow at Civic Ventures.

So Nick, guess what I did the other day. It's something terrible and depressing. I don't know what.

Counter to character. No, I went to a bar. I had a beer in a public place and it was glorious.

You know what that means at least for me. You can get drunk again. The pandemic is over.

That's good. I'm too old and inhibited to get drunk but I certainly am able to go out in

public. I've gone to stores. I wear my mask indoors but outdoors there's no more mask wearing

and it feels like for me things are getting back to normal and you can see that happening across

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