Hey everyone, it's James Lindsay, you were listening to The New Discourses podcast.

And I don't know if you guys know, but there is going to be a dangerous current of post-liberalism

happening throughout the West.

Now, I'm pretty sure you're aware of the woke aspect of this, but there's a post-liberal right as well.

And this is kind of centered in this sort of, I mean, you've heard it a little bit in this

Nash, this, what do I call it, Christian nationalism. I don't call it that. They call it that.

This Christian nationalism movement that I did some podcasts on previously, but they have a

movement that they're calling national conservatism. And sometimes it's called common good

conservatism. It is explicitly post-liberal. It's kind of characterized by blaming

classical liberalism for kind of evolving like a Pokemon into communism that's very dangerous.

And that John Locke is largely with his emphasis on the idea that we have natural rights that are

inalienable, including life, liberty, and property, because we are somehow individuals.

They kind of derive off of people like Carl Truman and argue that following Hegel, as it turns

out, that this leads to not individuality, but adamant, adamism, becoming atomic as people.

And thus, losing what it means to live in a common good society, kind of a character associated

with his national conservative program is Yoram Hazoni as kind of a prominent voice,

and kind of the Catholic integralist side. You have Adrian Vermeule,

law professor, I think, I think something from Harvard. And there's a number of other characters as

well. And the Christian nationalist movement is kind of tied up in this and kind of friendly

to it and kind of not. You actually have members of, say, the Southern Baptist Convention,

aligning with national conservatism as a movement. For example, Al Muller, president of Southern

Baptist Theological Seminary spoke at the National Conservatism Conference in Miami. I think

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