POST INTERVIEW: ‘The Dissident’ director Bryan Fogel
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4.8 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 2 June 2021
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
John Pollock & Wai Ting are joined by Academy Award-winning director Bryan Fogel (Icarus) to discuss ‘The Dissident’, his 2020 documentary about the assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi and Saudi Arabia’s attempts to silence international dissent.
Bryan speaks about how the success of Icarus led him to this daunting project; the importance of earning the trust of Khashoggi’s fiancée, Hetice Cengiz in its production; his thinking process behind the film’s minimalist portrayal of the chilling, unreleased audio transcript of Khashoggi’s murder; his struggles in finding a streaming service platform to support the film; and whether or not he has concerns for his own safety following its release.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back everybody to Post Wrestling and it's our pleasure to welcome this individual |
| 0:05.7 | to our show coming off our review last week of the dissident. He is an Academy award-winning |
| 0:11.3 | director whose latest film The dissident covers the murder of Jamal Hashogi and goes very, |
| 0:18.8 | very deep into the case. A pleasure to welcome Brian Fogel to the program. Brian, how are you doing today? |
| 0:23.6 | I'm doing well. I'm in Los Angeles, had a nice weekend and we've got June Gloom here going, |
| 0:33.1 | which is an interesting thing that everybody thinks LA is sunny, but for the month of June, |
| 0:39.9 | it's just always just gloom. We have the opposite. Up here in Canada, everyone assumes that we're |
| 0:44.5 | in igles and it's cold all the time when it's actually, I'm sure, more similarities than differences |
| 0:50.1 | between Toronto and Los Angeles. Yeah, well, hopefully it'll pass soon, but anyway, doing well. |
| 0:59.6 | Well, I wanted to start off by tying in one of the very first quotes that we hear from your |
| 1:06.0 | previous film of Icarus and that's when you hear Lance Armstrong saying, extraordinary allegations |
| 1:11.6 | must be followed up by extraordinary proof. And the Jamal Hashogi case, this film The dissident |
| 1:19.6 | very much is that extraordinary proof, but what is so fascinating is when you inject politics |
| 1:26.5 | at the very highest level and that power that comes with it that kind of throws a major curveball |
| 1:33.4 | into that pretty simple extraordinary allegations being met with extraordinary proof. |
| 1:39.8 | Doesn't always give you the fair justice that it should accompany. |
| 1:44.2 | Well, I think what's interesting about the two films both Icarus and the dissident is exactly |
| 1:58.1 | that where there's this incredible overwhelming, substantiated, undeniable, irrefutable truth |
| 2:07.2 | behind Russia's state sponsored doping scandal and program which took place over decades. |
| 2:15.0 | Or in the case of the dissident, the murder of Jamal Hashogi that was ordered by the Crown Prince |
| 2:22.2 | himself and yet despite this truth, both of these crimes are able to be gotten away with |
| 2:34.5 | essentially without punishment or any sort of ramifications. |
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