All right, everybody, welcome back to another edition of the Untitled Jeff Gluck podcast.

I'm your host, Jeff Gluck, and I'm here at NASCAR Kazm's House, where we just finished watching the Coca-Cola 600 after we both attended the Indy 500 here in Indianapolis.

NASCAR, Kazam, how you doing?

I'm not going to lie to you.

I'm a little bit fatigued right now.

This is always a very, very long day.

It's an enjoyable day, but it's an incredibly long day.

How long have we been awake right now?

What time is it?

It is now 1110 Eastern right now.

Okay, I woke up at 3 30 a m so yeah a while i don't know

my my brain can't even do the math anymore but yeah yeah i got to the track at about 430 this morning

and unlike last year i didn't need a nap at your house yes this year because there was no rain delay

for the cook 600 so that's cool

great news absolutely so that's a big plus still long day very much nothing against the Coke

600 that had nothing to do with why we retired I'm sure if no yeah it kind of did actually

but we'll we'll get to that we'll get to the Coke 600. We were we did watch the race here with

Bob Pockris and I mean as soon as I pulled out my podcast equipment it was gone. I mean he he

scrambled. Yes. Does he have fear of podcast? Is that his thing? Like he just busts out the

podcast equipment and some sort of phobia kicks in or maybe I mean I just did a podcast

with him last week.

And so maybe he was like, no, he saw the microphone and maybe it was a traumatic experience

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