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The Chuck ToddCast

Post Game: The 'Drone Wars' have begun, with Jonah Goldberg

The Chuck ToddCast

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Government, News

4.02.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

The U.S. downed three flying objects over North American airspace this week, marking an awakening — for many Americans — of the changing nature of global security and intelligence. Jonah Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Dispatch, joins Chuck to analyze how the White House and Pentagon have responded to the moment.

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0:00.0

Hello there, I'm Chuck Todd. I just stepped off the meet the press set. We hosted a joint

0:06.5

interview with New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy, Utah Governor and Spencer Cox. They chair

0:10.8

and vice-chainer right now of the National Governors Association, all the governors. Really

0:15.0

except for Ronda Sances, we're in Washington all week long. I also spoke with Congressman

0:18.6

Jim Hines. He's the ranking member of House Intel committee, a Democrat from Connecticut,

0:23.1

after another unidentified object was shot down over American skies. And I also interviewed

0:28.0

Mark Pomerantz, the attorney who assisted with the Manhattan DA's investigation into the

0:31.6

finances of former President Donald Trump. He wrote a bit of a tell-all book there. We

0:35.5

covered a lot of ground this morning sitting here with Jonah Goldberg. He's at her chief

0:38.4

of the dispatch and a fellow with the American Enterprise Institute. When do we get rid

0:45.7

of the title, Fellows? You know, it's an interesting title. I'm surprised we haven't meet

0:50.4

to Fellow out of the language. Well, I'm here to break news. I think they've promoted

0:56.0

me and everybody else to Senior Fellow. You're Senior Fellow. I'm a Senior Fellow now.

1:01.3

That implies there are Junior Fellows, but I'm guessing there are no Junior Fellows. No,

1:04.5

it doesn't anymore. Senior Administration spokesperson, right? Have you ever got a quote

1:08.7

from a Junior Administration spokesperson? I have not. But there are a lot of those kinds

1:12.9

of things that drive me crazy. Weird titles, Fellows. Fellow is one of those. I also think

1:19.9

Michael Kinzley, I think, was the first to observe this and for the youngs out there,

1:26.5

I don't know. Michael Kinzley used to be a really influential guy in Washington, journalists.

1:31.4

And he was the guy who noted that the longer your title, the less important your job, right?

1:37.8

President is just president, but the Senior Deputy official for the Undersecretary of

1:43.2

whatever. When there's a comma after your title, Senior Vice President, comma, whatever

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