All right, everybody, welcome back to another edition of the Untitled Jeff Buck podcast.

I'm your host, Jeff Gluck, and I'm so happy to be joined by my friend Holly Kane from nascar.com.

Holly, how are you?

I'm great.

I'm glad to be here.

I'm honored to be here, Joe.

No, I'm super stoked about this. Now, Holly, we're in a room at Dover International Speedway, and we're glad to be here. I'm honored to be here, Joe. I'm super stoked about this. Now,

Holly, we're in a room at Dover International Speedway, and we only had, we had to have a choice here.

There was a chair with wheels and a chair with no wheels. You chose the wheels chair. Why is that?

I'm fairly restless, and I like to be able to get around and move. So I had to go for the mobility.

Okay. So if there's any, if you hear Holly spinning across a room at some point, just taking the chair at the wheels for a spin, that's what that noise is. But Holly, Kyle Bush went for a spin, not the caution kind today, but he went for a spin around Dover,

and he did it faster than anybody else.

But I really didn't see that coming because with 60 laps to go, I actually tweeted,

oh, this is Chase Elliott's Race to Lose with no caution.

Actually, I didn't even say that.

I just said he's going to win pretty much.

But he didn't.

And I think you thought that too,

because you were in his pits for the end, getting color and things like that. Were you as

shocked as I was that of how that race turned out? Well, I think I was, and I can tell you,

sitting there, the crew certainly felt that way too. And it was really interesting. I was there

for about the last 25 laps of the race. And you could kind of, you know, you feel the tension and

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