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Welcome back to the latest edition of The Audible presented by Trader Joe's.

I'm Bruce Feldman, joined as always by my colleague Stuart Mandel and

stew we have a guest today who will have an interesting perspective on the name

image and likeness discussion, and that is Bubba Cunningham.

He is the AED at North Carolina, where there's a lot of really good things going on, and I'll be honest, Bubba's perspective on the NIL issue caught me

off guard a little bit. Well I think we've been so anything involving athletes

getting paid there's definitely a bit of an echo chamber in our world and certainly on Twitter where you get the sense that everybody thinks that free market, whatever they're worth, the athletes should be able to get paid and etc.

I don't think you would necessarily say he's against athletes making money, but he's definitely coming at it from the perspective of somebody who works in college athletics who's

obviously a believer in the current model and is concerned about the impact

some of these changes could have if they go through so

it's good to get his perspective on that and stay to the end because I think it's a

little different than where you know I think like I said it kind of surprised me it surprised me a little bit in the beginning and then it surprised me even more in the direction it kind of went from there.

Yeah towards the end of the interview. He says some things that you wouldn't necessarily have seen coming

based on what he said earlier in the interview. Okay Bruce on Monday I joked about it Twitter, but it felt like good news Monday in terms of various announcements and whatnot related to the return of sports, related to possibly, or related, you know, some universities announce like Notre Dame in South Carolina,

some more specific plans for how they plan to reopen in the fall.

So, how are you feeling these days about the two month long

speculation about are we going to have a college football season? It's a good

question, it's a complicated question, right? So there's a couple of things that are going into this.

One is the part you're talking about, which was the state of California, New York state, as well as Texas,

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