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Family Lore

Portrait of a Lady

Family Lore

Audacy

Society & Culture, History

4.64.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

The granddaughter of a prolific Jewish art collector who fled Europe during World War II embarks on a quest to recover the looted art.

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In our last episode, we heard from a gentleman from the Netherlands named Paul Post. In his

0:55.7

retirement, Paul became a researcher and a self-taught investigator. He used his father's

1:01.0

journals to uncover information about a man named Friedrich Kotkin, who served as a sort of Nazi

1:05.9

finance guru. Kotkin reported to the Nazi leader, Hitler's second in command, Herman Gurring.

1:12.6

And together, Gurring and Kotkin stole a myriad of precious items, including diamonds and art.

1:18.6

After the war, Herman Gurring was convicted at Nuremberg before killing himself in his jail cell with a smuggled cyanide capsule.

1:25.6

Friedrich Kotkin, however, escaped. At the end of the previous

1:30.6

episode, Paul had traced Kotkin's movements to Mardelplata Argentina, where they discovered a

1:35.8

piece of art that the Nazi had looted and smuggled into the country. And with that piece of art,

1:41.1

Paul Post's family story intersected with the story of another family.

1:45.9

In today's episode, we're going to hear from that family.

1:49.9

I'm Lloyd Lockridge, and this is Family Lore.

2:00.2

So could you tell me your name and where you're from?

2:03.1

Yes, my name is Charlene von Serre, and I was born in the U.K. and currently live in Connecticut

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