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Conspirituality

Portland Has (Not) Fallen (For It)

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Spirituality, Social Sciences, Religion & Spirituality, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.22K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2025

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Listen to the full episode on Patreon After attending the No Kings rally in Portland on Saturday, Derek shares some thoughts about the week leading up to the nationwide protests. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

There was a guy with a Trump flag standing on the promenade.

0:08.4

It was a black flag where the stars and stripes were faded.

0:14.9

It says Trump, MAGA, 45 and 47, and around the 1776, where the 50 stars should be, there were 13 stars.

0:26.2

It's a whole jumble of symbolism. In fact, made even funnier by the fact that he was carrying

0:32.8

a Captain America shield, the kind the little kids carry around on Halloween. And I'm not going to

0:40.7

ding that because this was the Portland No Kings Rally. I mean, the number of adults wearing

0:45.5

inflatable costumes and their children was pretty impressive. But they at least usually tended to

0:52.7

get the symbolism right.

0:55.0

If you're going to carry a Captain America shield, you should know that he was an anti-fascist.

1:00.9

So that contradicts what's going on in your right hand.

1:05.8

He was joined by an older lady, who I believe was his mother.

1:13.3

She was seated the whole time. She had a sign.

1:20.5

And no one really engaged with them as I stood there for a little while off in the distance, just watching, because I was interested. Because of the, who knows how many thousands of people,

1:27.8

I don't know if an official count is at when I'm recording this yet.

1:30.7

The last No King's Rally said to get 10,000 people,

1:33.9

I would imagine there were more this time,

1:35.7

especially given what's going on in Portland right now.

1:39.4

But a couple people said remarks as they walked by,

1:46.8

and I did catch his replies. He was always saying, you're the fascist. You won't stop and have a conversation with me. So I don't think

1:53.2

he was a paid agitator. He just seemed like a lonely young boy in his 20s and his mother,

1:59.7

who just wanted to start some shit.

2:04.4

They didn't seem paid, but they seemed like they wanted to fight some people.

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