Pornography VS Iconography (Jonathan Pageau) | Ep. 251

Pints With Aquinas

Matt Fradd

Stthomasaquinas, Saintthomasaquinas, Mattfradd, Theology, Catholic, Dominican, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Philosophy

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🗓️ 2 February 2021

⏱️ 80 minutes

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In this episode of Pints with Aquinas, I chat with Jonathan Pageau about how porn isn't art, it's an idol; and how icons aren't porn! We also talk about art, the covid lockdowns, and more.

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0:00.0	Good day there. Welcome to Pints with Aquinas. My name is Matt Frad and I'm really excited to have Jonathan Pajot on the episode today.
0:09.7	Jonathan Pajot is a professional artist, writer and public speaker. I've seen him give lectures with Jordan Peterson and Brett Weinstein and others.
0:18.9	He gives workshops and conferences all around North America. He teaches
0:22.9	carving, speaks on art, but mostly explores symbolic structures that underlie our experience of the
0:29.8	world. Today we are going to be talking about the difference between iconography and
0:35.0	pornography. I've had this idea for a while that pornography is almost like the
0:39.3	anti-icon, whereas the icon reveals, pornography conceals the mystery of the person. That's what we'll
0:47.5	talk about and I'm sure that Jonathan will have a lot of interesting things to share. Before we
0:51.9	do that though, I want to tell you guys about Hello,
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2:01.2	Hello.com slash Matt Frad.
2:03.8	Hello.com slash Matt Frad.
2:05.7	All right, here is my interview with Jonathan Pajot.
2:08.1	Thanks.
2:20.9	Jonathan Pajot. Did I get that right?
2:22.0	Yes, that's right.
2:24.3	Good. That's cool. That's a cool way of saying it.
2:28.0	Australians are really great at butchering names that should sound lovely like that.
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