Hi, I'm Grant Wall, and welcome to the Planet Football Podcast, where I go in-depth with the most intriguing people in the world of soccer.

In this episode, I'm joined by my friend Andy Markovitz, a popular University of Michigan professor who has written

several books on sports including off-side soccer and American exceptionalism.

We talk about his thoughts on the World Cup on and off the field in a conversation that I think you'll enjoy.

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Got a fun podcast interview this week.

It's Andy Markovitz, who is coming on again. He was on a few months ago. He's one of my favorite people in the soccer world.

University of Michigan professor, author of many books including Offside soccer and American exceptionalism which you should

check out.

We happen to be in Ann Arbor, Michigan and Andy's Backyard Gazebo here.

It's my first trip ever to Ann Arbor. We're here. I'm not even working this

weekend. I'm just here to join him to watch Liverpool Man United. My first trip

to the Big House.

Andy, great to be here with you.

Thank you so much for having me on and great to have you here.

Yeah, it's funny because I'm staying at a hotel in town here where Liverpool's team is actually staying.

Boo! And Andy, if you listen to our first podcast, Big Manchester United fan wearing a man- Jersey right now and was wearing it as we left the hotel

where I'm staying with all these Liverpool fans outside who literally started booing him.

It didn't get too, Harry, did it?

No, no, no.

They were waiting for the team, which you will,

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