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Gone Medieval

Pope Joan: Sacred Scandal

Gone Medieval

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4.62.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Out of the shadowy world of the medieval church, an extraordinary legend emerged of a woman who disguised herself as a man and remarkably, rose to become Pope. It's a story of secret identities, illicit affairs and a Church shaken by the unthinkable - a female pope giving birth in the midst of a sacred procession.


In this episode of Gone Medieval, Dr. Eleanor Janega is joined by Professor Craig Rustici from Hofstra University NY, author of The Afterlife of Pope Joan: Deploying the Popess Legend in Early Modern England. Together they try to unravel the threads of the scant historical evidence, the anti-papal agendas that may have fuelled the myth, and why the tale of a cross-dressing woman rising to the Throne of St. Peter continues to intrigue us more than seven centuries later.


This episode was produced by Rob Weinberg.


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0:00.0

Out of the shadowy world of the medieval church, an extraordinary legend emerged that has endured for more than seven centuries.

0:20.0

It's the story of a woman who disguised herself as a man and remarkably rose to become Pope.

0:26.0

This episode on Pope Joan was suggested by gone medieval listener Holly in New Zealand.

0:31.0

Hi Eleanor, my name's Holly Brown from Dunedin, New Zealand. Hi Eleanor, my name's Holly Brown from Deneed in New Zealand.

0:35.0

I had to pull out in my archaeology degree last year for health reasons and gone medieval

0:38.6

really helped me stay sane and feed my passion for medieval history when I got better.

0:43.2

I've really loved to hear an episode in Pope Joan.

0:45.5

I think whether or not she existed people believe she existed for hundreds of years

0:50.0

and that would be really interesting to explore.

0:52.0

Thank you for listening. Thank you for listening.

0:53.4

Thank you, Holly.

0:55.4

So, was there really a brilliant woman scholar

0:59.0

whose intellect and ambition shattered the ultimate glass

1:02.2

ceiling of Christendom.

1:04.4

Or was it all a provocative myth created to undermine the power and authority of the all-male

1:09.4

papacy?

1:10.4

From the first whispers in the 13th century chronicles to the so-called proof of a papal bust,

1:16.0

the Pope Joan Tale has captivated generations. It's a story of secret identities,

1:21.4

illicit affairs, and a church shaken by the unthinkable, a female

1:26.0

Pope giving birth in the midst of a sacred procession.

1:30.3

I'm Dr. Eleanor Yanega, and on this episode of Gond Medieval I'm joined by Professor Craig

1:34.6

Rusticisee from Hofstraen University New York State.

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