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Pope Francis dead at 88

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4.41.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2025

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Tennessean Religion Reporter Liam Adams discusses the life and legacy of Pope Francis.

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Good morning. I'm Taylor Wilson, and today is Monday, April 21st, 2025. This is the excerpt.

0:45.0

Today we remember Pope Francis. Plus, defense secretary Pete Hegeseth reportedly shared details of an attack on Houthis in a message group that included his family members.

0:54.5

And the Supreme Court takes on children's books in school.

0:59.3

Pope Francis has died.

1:01.4

The first Latin American leader of the Catholic Church had survived a serious bout of double pneumonia

1:06.0

in recent months.

1:07.0

I spoke with Liam Adams, a religion reporter with the Tennessean, part of the USA Today Network,

1:12.1

for more on the life and legacy of Pope Francis. Hello, Liam. Thanks for wrapping on on this.

1:17.4

Thanks for having me. So let's just go back to the moment he became Pope. I mean, what was it about his

1:23.5

election in 2013 that was so historic? And what were some of the major themes of his early tenure?

1:29.0

So Pope Francis, he stepped into the papacy after serving as the Archbishop of Buenos Aires. His name is

1:37.9

Jorge Mario Brigolio. And he was the first Pope from Latin America and the first from the Southern Hemisphere.

1:47.2

Early on into his tenure, his attitude toward leadership over the Catholic Church was a shift.

1:58.2

Some examples that stood out was his commitment to living simplistically.

2:04.2

So for example, he decided instead of taking residence in the apostolic palace, he stayed in

2:10.9

the Vatican guest house. And that kind of set the tone for a lot of his attitudes that would over time emerge through his policies

2:21.8

and proclamations. Well, as you noted, the Catholic Church really has changed under Francis's

2:28.3

leadership with some describing that shift as progressive. Liam, is that a fair characterization and why?

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