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Pope Francis: Climate Activist?

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🗓️ 19 November 2023

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Pope Francis says he will attend the COP28 climate conference in Dubai next month, which would make him the first pontiff to attend the annual UN gathering. The pope has made addressing the climate crisis an important focus since 2015, when he published an encyclical on climate change and the environment.

Last month, he doubled down on his stance with a new document – Laudate Deum. It's a scathing rebuke of the inaction by world leaders over the last eight years.

As Francis takes on an even bigger role in climate activism. What does he hope to achieve? And how does this all fit into his broader legacy as leader of the world's 1.3 billion Roman Catholics.

NPR's Scott Detrow spoke with Fordham professor Christiana Zenner, and Associated Press Vatican correspondent Nicole Winfield, about Pope Francis and his role in advocating for action on climate change.

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0:00.0

Activist and Pope, and Pope, historically, they're not two words that go together, but they have

0:12.2

over the past decade, especially when it comes

0:15.1

to climate change.

0:16.6

Pope Francis has made climate and the environment a central focus of his papacy.

0:21.5

The first big moment came in 2015.

0:23.7

Francis describes the earth as mistreated and abused and urges everyone, individuals, families,

0:30.0

local communities, stations, and the international community to listen to its groans.

0:36.0

That was NPR Sylvia Pajoli back in 2015.

0:39.2

Reporting on the release of Laudato C. A major papal document called an encyclical where Francis urged the world to take

0:46.1

climate change seriously and to cut back on material waste and consumption-centered lifestyles.

0:52.0

Last month, he revisited the topic issuing a new major

0:54.9

writing called Laudate Dayum. Over the intervening eight years the world has gotten

0:59.2

hotter and big climate solutions have failed to fully materialize.

1:03.7

So it was notable how much the Pope's tone had shifted.

1:07.6

This document was much more scathing.

1:10.9

Christiana Zenner is a professor at Fordham University who studied the Pope's writings on climate change.

1:16.0

She says the latest document reflects Francis's growing frustration.

1:20.0

In the 2015 bigger document let Ottoato Sea, there was a lot more reflective, rhapsodic, and almost devotional language.

1:30.0

In this document, 2023, L'Ate deum, there is pointed ethical diagnosis and critique of

1:37.2

misunderstandings and willful ignorance.

1:40.8

And that sense of urgency isn't just in writing.

1:43.5

Pope Francis has announced his plans to attend COP28,

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