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Before we start today's episode, we just wanted to offer our thoughts and prayers, which today must go to the MP for South West Norfolk, the right honourable, Mary Elizabeth

Trust.

I'm afraid we have not taken on the left enough.

And the left don't just compete with us at the ballot box now.

They also work to take over our institutions.

And we've seen that.

We see it in much of the media. We see it in corporations. We see it most of all in the quangos and government bureaucracy that emerged under

Tony Blair. What you heard there was a speech made by Liz Truss at something called Popcon, Popular Conservatism.

It is yet another movement from the Conservative Party designed to try and come up with new ideas to make conservatism popular again.

You might at this point be wondering, is Liz Truss the right person to carry that torch?

We went along to PopCon so you don't have to. Welcome to the newsagents.

The Newsagents. It's Emily. It's Lewis. And we will be visiting the Commonwealth a little later in the

programme to talk to one, John Sable. But first, we have, of course, got to talk about Popcom,

which is the latest faction, the latest iteration of conservatism to try and affect the

conservative conversation. And if you're feeling a bit confused or a bit dazed, because you

might remember our episode about NatCon, national conservatives, well, funnily enough, yeah, we are a bit too,

because just like Popcon, I went along to Natcom, which was basically being launched in almost the

same building in the same street with many of the same sorts of people. If you're sat there thinking,

is this people's front of Judea or Judean people's

front? Perhaps you could be forgiven. But yes, this is the latest attempt, this time spearheaded

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