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Welcome to the New York Times Popcast, your pale fire of music news and criticism. I'm your

host Ben Ratliff. You're hearing

sappo Kanakon from the new record called Divers by Joanna Newsom. Joanna Newsom, new some.

Joanna Newsom, singer, musician, composer, producer, who inspires people,

inspires people to care deeply, all kinds of people, and also inspires people to

write badly, mostly men.

And to talk about that today, our guest is Melissa Martyrano.

Hi Melissa.

Hello.

In one part of your fascinating life you help run a blog called Blessing all the birds all the birds dot tumbler.com

it's described on the front page as a feminist fan project focusing on the work of

Joanna Newsom of Joanna Newsom.

Joanna Newsom has been, you could say misinterpreted, condescended to, acted upon by language,

often by men.

And this is part of the focus of your blog,

which I have found really quite instructive and amazing.

It's also, as you say, it is also a fan blog, okay?

But there's this sort of critical element in which you catalog various ways in which language has shaped a perception of her.

So tell us a little bit about what kinds of characterizations and words and when did it all start?

I think a lot of the ways that people respond to Joanna Newsom it's it's very very sexist and can be very very misogynistic and

Just you know looking over my blog recently I sort of have found you know three or four trends in the way that people talk about

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