Popcast: Janet Jackson and the Legacy of ‘Control’

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The New York Times

Music Interviews, Music Commentary, Music

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🗓️ 12 August 2016

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

A discussion on how pop failed Ms. Jackson for years, and what it has done for her lately.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the New York Times
0:02.0	podcast.
0:03.0	What have we done for you lately of music, news, and criticism?
0:06.7	I'm your host John Caramonica.
0:08.0	When I was 17, I did what my father said and let my mother movie
0:22.0	that was a long ago I'm in my heart You're listening to control by Janet Jackson. We're in control with John Caramonica and
0:38.1	Wesley Marsh, critic at large in the New York Times.
0:40.6	Hi, John. What's that?
0:42.4	Really good. It's all good What's that? Really good.
0:43.3	It's all good if we're talking about Janet.
0:45.1	It's such a beautiful day because I feel like a lot of times on the
0:48.1	pop cast, you know we're talking about the now.
0:50.7	We're talking about this very specific moment, this thing that is happening as you are listening.
0:56.0	And it's nice to kind of step back and think a little bit.
0:59.0	And in this case, to think a little bit about Janet.
1:02.0	You wrote a piece the other day about the
1:05.2	30th that loosely pegged to the 30th anniversary of the commercial peak of control.
1:12.4	Tell us a little bit about control when it came peak of control. control. Yes.
1:13.0	Tell us a little bit about control when it came out, why it was important when it came out.
1:17.0	It came out in February of 1986 at a really interesting time for pop music in general and R&B's pop transition,
1:28.0	it basically just didn't sound like anything else.
1:32.0	It had clear antecedents. At that point we had Prince
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