Popcast (Deluxe): Listening to Beyoncé & Future (and the Discourse)

Popcast

The New York Times

Music Interviews, Music Commentary, Music

3.6 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2024

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

How conversation about very specific aspects of the new albums “Cowboy Carter” and “We Don’t Trust You” can obscure talk of their musical quality.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Popcast Deluxe, you are had to make another show. I'm getting claustrophobic of weekly cultural review.
0:08.0	I'm John Karamanica, a critic at the New York Times.
0:11.0	I'm Joe Cusckereli reporter at the New York Times. Before'm Joe Coscarelli a reporter at the New York Times.
0:13.5	Before we get into the big conversation this week, there's a subscribe button.
0:18.5	I think there's even a QR code.
0:20.1	Sure. Like why not? Like, I mean, haven't quite figured out how you can like be looking at it on your phone but also scanning it with your phone but if you're looking at it
0:27.5	It is a two screen experience you know if you're like following up from Mr Beast video on your home TV and then you can go to the deluxe.
0:35.0	Anyway, like and subscribe, YouTube.com slash podcast.
0:39.0	Bing, bing, Joe. What makes a great album great?
0:45.0	I have some thoughts on that this week.
0:49.0	Okay. I also have some thoughts on what other people think makes a great album great.
0:57.0	Right.
0:58.0	They are not the same as what I think.
1:01.0	I want to talk about that in regards to two albums. So obviously here we are
1:07.2	in the light, the bold light of Cowboy Carter, the second act of the Beyoncé trilogy. That came out on
1:17.2	Friday. Also genre sad boy. Yes, we will be going very deep on the trippy red machine gun Kelly.
1:30.0	As a literal total sidebar you saw the whole thing on Twitter with the producer but then it was like maybe fake I don't know you saw the fake like the press release or like the like the TikTok with the limbs all around really solid if that was a marketing strategy like genuinely really good like
1:46.6	actually like get that person to raise if you are that person you send us an
1:50.8	email podcasts and if it was just marketing for the producer themselves,
1:55.0	also great, great, also great, every part of it, great.
1:58.0	We're not going to be talking tragically about a genre sound quite today,
2:01.0	but maybe in another time. So we're talking about cowboy Carter. I also want to talk about the future and Metrobooming album, We Don't Trust You. Okay, these are two albums where there is the quality of the music and
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