Beyoncé, ‘Cowboy Carter’ and Filling in History’s Gaps

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🗓️ 9 April 2024

⏱️ 67 minutes

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A conversation about how the pop superstar’s genre experiments explore race and power, and the implicit politics that come with them. Guests: Marcus K. Dowling and Julianne Escobedo Shepherd.

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0:00.0	Nothing really is.
0:05.0	But things I say the same may have to change again.
0:12.0	Hello, my name. change again.
0:13.0	Hello, my old friend.
0:17.0	Welcome to the New York Times
0:17.8	podcast, your industrial-grade glycine
0:20.8	of music news and criticism.
0:22.4	I'm your host, John Cara Monica.
0:24.0	Do you hear the totality of American musical history.
0:34.0	I bet you do.
0:36.0	It's American Requiem, it's Biancé, it's Cowboy Carter.
0:39.0	It's the Cowboy Carter episode.
0:41.0	You knew it was coming. Joe and I talked about it on
0:43.6	deluxe a few days ago, but you know we had to come with the full episode. We are
0:47.4	going to talk all things Beyoncé this week. We're going to talk the
0:51.3	specifics. We're going to talk some of the historical
0:53.2	antecedents for this album we are going to talk the discourse and the meta discourse
0:57.9	even the toxic parts we're going to talk about all that this. I'm joined by two people who are no strangers to
1:05.2	podcast and no strangers to Beyoncé. First, Julianne Escobato Shepard.
1:09.0	Julianne, welcome. Hi, nice to see you.
1:11.0	Hey, thanks for having me.
1:13.3	Julianne reviewed Cowboy Carter for Pitchwork,
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