Welcome to the New York Times Popcast, your festive algorithm of music news and criticism.

I'm your host Ben Ratliff.

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The revered Brazilian singer-songwriters Cayano Valoso and Gil

Gil dell, have just passed through New York playing a couple of shows at Brooklyn Academy of Music and we are extremely lucky to have Kaitano Veloso with us in the studio today. Someone who is one of the great, I want to say Brazilian musicians,

but that's not quite it. I want to say singer, songwriters of the last century, but that's not quite it somehow.

It's a little bigger than that. In any case, we're very happy to have you here on the

pop-cast, Kaitano.

Hi. You're on tour with Gilberto Gill.

Yes.

Something that you've done perhaps many times in the past within Brazil, not so many times outside of

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