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Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's Chuck.

Jerry's here, too, talking about her grandmother and what she did with Pop-Tarts. And it actually sounds kind of good.

Oh, man, my grandmother wouldn't have been a Pop-Tart anywhere near her house. Oh, no, she was like that, huh?

Well, one of them. My one more, I mean, one was sort of the modern grandmother, my mom's mom. They had like TV and stuff like that, a BCR.

But Granny Bryant, my dad's mother, was very old school, sort of rural Tennessee.

And like she didn't have a television.

She didn't have anything like a Pop-Tart.

Right.

She's like, if I didn't can it, you're not going to eat it.

Yeah. She just kind of had the didn't can it, you're not going to eat it. Yeah.

She just kind of had the big, uh, big jar of grease on the stove that like she never bought oil in her life. She just kept reusing the same stuff. Man, I'll bet that tasted good though. Yeah. Granny Bryant, the best. Well, that's funny. You said that one of your, your other grandmother, your mom's mom was modern.

Yeah.

Because that's actually,

some theories say that that said that one of your other grandmother, your mom's mom, was modern.

Yeah.

Because that's actually some theories say that that is what Pop-Tarts grew out of,

that there was this huge shift in the 60s, usually pointed to a second wave feminism,

where women began to essentially say, like, this whole traditional housewife

thing is basically domestic servitude, and I'm not down for it anymore. I'm going to work in the

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