Pop Rocket Ep. 204 From Dafoe’s Van Gogh to Hayek’s Frida: A Look at Hollywood’s Attempt to Make Art about Artists
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4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 14 December 2018
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
How right, but mostly how wrong, does Hollywood get it when it comes to capturing artists in film? Margaret Wappler asks these very questions of her esteemed panel. And this, the panel is comprised of LA Times staff writer Carolina Miranda, who covers visual arts, culture and architecture, media scholar and TV critic Sarah Kessler--filling in for her under-the-weather wife Karen Tongson--and Cal Arts professor and visual artist David P Earle, who is better known to Pop Rocket listeners as father to Silas and husband to our very own Margaret Wappler.
From Mike Leigh's Mr. Turner to Antonio Banderas's Golden Globe-nominated performance in Genius: Picasso, the crew highlights all the tired tropes Hollywood can’t resist when depicting artists. They’ll tell you about the films that get it right, and the films that get it deliciously wrong. Plus, why are all the portrayals of Andy Warhol on the big screen so...different? Was the real Andy Warhol more like Crispin Glover in The Doors or David Bowie in Julian Schnabel's Basquiat? Does Salma Hayek really do Frida justice? And which actress nails the stereotype of the insufferable, pretentious artist on the head? Join us as we try to suss out: is art about art art, or t-shirt at the giftshop bullshit?
All Abouts
Sarah is all about Valerie Solanas's SCUM Manifesto with forward by Michelle Tea.
Carolina is all about narco-novelas, in particular Netflix's Narcos: Mexico starring Diego Luna.
David is all about his algorithmically generated list of top songs of 2018 from Spotify.
Margaret is all about the 18th century period piece The Favourite, a feminist reimagining of Queen Anne's court starring Rachel Weisz, Emma Stone, and Olivia Colman.
That's My Jam
Sarah - Laura Branigan - Gloria
David - Saba - LOGOUT
Carolina - The Bucketheads - The Bomb! (These Sounds Fall into My Mind)
Margaret- Katzù Oso - Crazy4luvinU
With Margaret Wappler, David Earle, Carolina Miranda, and Sarah Rebecca Kessler.
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| 0:00.0 | Oh, hey there I'm Margaret Wopler, and welcome to Pop Rocket, a weekly show picking over the pop culture we all love to love. |
| 0:16.0 | It is down to only I, Margaret Wopler, of the original cast and crew of Pop Rocket. There's no Karen, there's no guy, and there's no |
| 0:26.9 | winter, but we have a fine assembly of guests today to talk to me about film, TV, music, or anything else entertaining. |
| 0:35.4 | We have Media Scholar and TV Critic, Sarah Kessler, back for her second Jeopardy week in a row. |
| 0:43.8 | Indeed, indeed, with less than a whole week |
| 0:47.2 | separating my two sessions with you all. |
| 0:50.8 | Believe me, I'm just as surprised as anyone else. But yes, Karen has some kind of lung |
| 0:57.2 | ailment and I forced her to stay in bed which as you may all realize just from listening to her regularly |
| 1:04.7 | is very difficult to do so she is under strict orders to stay in bed |
| 1:11.0 | watch Mrs. Maisle and drink soup all day. |
| 1:15.0 | Well Karen we're thinking about you. |
| 1:16.5 | Hope you get better soon. |
| 1:18.0 | Carolina Miranda is our next guest. |
| 1:20.3 | Carolina, how should we describe you? |
| 1:22.6 | How should you describe me? |
| 1:24.8 | Art and architecture writer for the Los Angeles Times? |
| 1:28.1 | Uh... |
| 1:29.1 | Bon Vivant? |
| 1:30.1 | Do you feel comfortable with that? |
| 1:31.6 | Well, these days I don't feel very bonavavant-ish, |
| 1:34.1 | but yeah, I allude to, I aspire to it. |
| 1:39.4 | Burrito-eater, Narko Novella watcher and you know attempting to finish reading the books I start. |
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