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Natalie Haynes Stands Up for the Classics

Pompeii

Natalie Haynes Stands Up for the Classics

BBC

Stand-up, History, Comedy

4.8598 Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2022

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

It seems that classical scholars are wrong about the date of the volcanic eruption that destroyed the ancient city of Pompeii almost two thousand years ago. It's taken a few ripe pomegranates and some squashed grapes, carbonised by pyroclastic flow, to change our minds about this UNESCO World Heritage Site. The eruption was definitely in the year 79, but the month? Most written sources mistakenly suggest it was August but if you know your fruit, you will know that pomegranates and grapes ripen in the autumn in Italy. So the presence of these fruit in the remains of the city suggest the eruption must have taken place later in the year.

Natalie draws on the blisteringly dramatic account of the disaster by Pliny the Younger, writing to his friend, the historian Tacitus. She talks to archaeologist Dr Sophie Hay, who has spent nineteen years living and working in Italy and is a leading expert on the site. There are poignant details: many bodies discovered there were carrying keys, because people expected to be able to return to their homes once the eruption had subsided. Others had pillows wrapped around their heads to protect them from the pumice and lava raining down on them as they tried to escape.

‘Rock star mythologist’ and reformed stand-up Natalie Haynes is obsessed with the ancient world. She explores key stories from ancient Rome and Greece that still have resonance today. They might be biographical, topographical, mythological or epic, but they are always hilarious, magical and tragic, mystifying and revelatory. And they tell us more about ourselves now than seems possible of stories from a couple of thousand years ago.

With guests Dr Sophie Hay and Professor Llewelyn Morgan

Producer Mary Ward-Lowery

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:05.0

Ladies and gentlemen, today I am standing up for Pompeii.

0:10.0

So this is quite a departure for this programme, that we're doing a biography of a town.

0:24.4

But I thought a lot of us haven't been able to travel very much for a while.

0:28.7

It'd be nice to do some radio tourism.

0:31.0

Let's go hang out somewhere fun.

0:34.4

It's very much date-dependent.

0:37.4

So Pompeii is, for those of you who have not been paying attention, a small town. It's very much date dependent.

0:42.3

So Pompeii is, for those of you who have not been paying attention, a small town in a very beautiful part of the world, Campania, southern Italy. It was deemed by first century Romans to be sort of

0:48.8

a bit of a backwater. It's much less fashionable than nearby Bayai, which is where you go if you are Agrippina the Younger

0:55.9

in order to avoid getting murdered by collapsible boat.

1:00.2

It's not as fashionable as Capri, where the Emperor Tiberius had a villa,

1:04.9

which you can still visit today.

1:06.1

Incredibly beautiful.

1:07.7

Pompeii is rarely mentioned by literary sources in the first century and when it is,

1:12.3

it's not usually for good reasons. I was going to say most memorably, very much second most

1:18.9

memorably. In the year 59, there's gladiatorial violence overspills from the arena.

1:28.2

So gladiatorial battles are happening in the amphitheatre.

1:31.3

It spills out onto the streets between the locals, Pompeians, and the visiting Nukaryans.

1:36.2

Nukary comes off worse.

1:37.6

Obviously, the Pompeians have superior numbers.

1:39.3

They drag their battered bodies and the survivors of injury and the survivors of dead relatives,

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