The last time that I was sitting across from this guy, we had the best conversation on the planet.

So much fun talking about my favorite thing.

Like, one of my favorite things to talk about.

Like, what favorite thing?

But favorite things to talk about, like period, on this podcast especially, which is sex.

Because you have the best sex story is Devlin Wilder.

Oh, thank you so much. From friend or fo Fo podcast, which we're going to, I guess we're pod swapping again, which sounds really dirty. It does. I really like it, yeah. But it could be a new, new maneuver, yeah. But I, I mean, we're meeting, like, in the middle of the night at a coffee bean on the corner of like Las Yaniga and what are we? It's a good place to be. I've never, I've driven past this place. I'm having their new single origin mocha and I was a little worried about it. It is tasty. Everything here's good. It's delicious. It's dessert in a glass. Pretty much. Yeah. I mean, it's like, yeah, the best. Have you ever had the black forest with the roundup? What's that like? It's like a, I can't even do it anymore. But when I first moved to L.A., that was like my crack because it's coffee, blend it with coffee beans, the chocolate. And blend it with cherries. Yes, please. Oh,, oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, put it in my mouth, I'll lay in it. No. Oh, yeah. You see, there you go. It gets dirty. Listen, Lana, you bring it out of me. You really do. But I'm not really dirty. I just, you know, I just. Well, we have certain things in common. I mean, like, you were a super late bloomer.

You've just gone on a whole different...

You have no idea.

Yeah, no, I do. We talked about it last time.

I know. Yeah, I didn't have sex until I was 31. Thanks for bringing that up again.

Yeah, I didn't have sex until I was 31. And then it's been, uh, it's been quite an interesting roller coaster since then.

How did you make it through those years where there's so much?

I don't know, Lana. I really don't know. It's a lot of masturbating. A hell of a lot of masturbating.

I mean, three, four, several times a day. Were you just unable to find the right person to lose your virginity?

Yeah, and the other thing was just...

Three or four times a day?

Sometimes.

Sometimes, yeah.

Yeah.

I was so religious for so very long.

God, religion fuses up everything.

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