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Welcome to Gr Cook Eat Arrange, the podcast of me, Sarah Raven, and today I'm joined by Polly Wilkinson.

And hello, Polly, by the way.

Hello, hello.

So nice to have you here. I just want to give you a little bit of a kind of background to Polly.

She's going to tell us about how she got into design.

But the reason that I've come across her is one on Instagram,

she does these really brilliant call-to-action gardening films,

where she's saying, right, today it's a miserable day

in February or March or May, whatever it is. And do you know what I'm doing today? It's this.

And I'm going to do it like this. One, two, three, four. And I love that because it's so empowering

for people and it's so clear you are a brilliant teacher polly you

definitely definitely ought to teach gardening i mean you do in a way but also she's written a book

that is very very similar there has been a massive bestseller in the gardening world um which is

called how to design a garden and i like the way the title is so straight on too,

because that's what you'll find as you hear Polly Chat. She's very straight on. She's sort of

direct and breezy and no nonsense and easy. And that's what I feel whenever I see you or read you,

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