Hey, pull up a chair. It's hacks on tap with David Axel Rock and Mike Murphy.

She's done one debate, I've done two. It's too late to do another, I'd love to in many ways, but it's too late.

The voting is cast, the voters are out there immediately. Is everybody voting voting please get out and vote.

Well here we go Mike Murphy. Yeah the electric words of a Trump retreat on debating

he's calling the five reverse gears, although I predict.

And I want to hear what our amazing guest has to say, who knows him well, but I predict

ten days from now if he thinks he's losing losing he'll be back on the time for debate business

because the losing candidate can't give up the opportunity to put the ball in the air.

But let's ask our terrific guest, first time on Hacks, long time listener, long time friend.

Who is it, David?

It's Alyssa Farra Griffin, my buddy, my panel buddy from CNN,

a star of the view, don't tell the other women I said that.

Yeah, you're a dead man now, Axel Rob.

And former communications director for President Donald Trump.

So she has great insights into the man, the myth, the whatever.

Well, thank you guys for having me. I feel like I'm at the adults table now.

This is so cool.

Boy, you got the wrong memo here.

Yeah, the four o'clock early bird here.

The veterans is what we'll say.

The whoopi cushions in the pinwheel hats yet. My question is, is it going to rain on axle rod?

Because that's still my favorite night is when you were just leaked on on a CNN set for hours on the end.

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