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More than 300,000 federal workers have left government service since the start of the second

Trump administration.

Some were laid off by the administration, some took buyouts, some walked out. The cuts have hit

every major agency from the State Department to the Justice Department, which lost more than 20%

of its legal staff since the start of the last year. That's according to a New York Times analysis published

this week. Today, we're looking at how those cuts are affecting the workers who remain and at a new

plan from the Trump administration. Last week, the Office of Personnel Management proposed

pushing all federal employees to sign non-disclosure agreements that would prevent them from sharing internal

government information. But critics warned it could discourage whistleblowers and create a new

tool to push out employees it considers disloyal. I'm Jen White. You're listening to the

1A podcast. We'll be back with more after this short break. Stay with us.

Welcome back to the 1A podcast. Let's get back to our conversation about the state of the federal

workforce and the Trump administration's proposed tightening of information through NDAs.

Joining us in studio is New York Times reporter Eileen Sullivan. She covers the federal workforce and recently wrote about the exodus of lawyers leaving the government.

Eileen, welcome back to the program.

Thanks so much for having me.

Also with us, Max Steyer.

He's the CEO of the Partnership for Public Service.

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