Civic engagement cannot be a biannual freak out. It needs to be something that you get excited about doing every single day, right?

You know, like for me. It needs to be on a t-shirt. I'm sorry. That was amazing.

We got to address the suburban women problem because it's real.

What do an economist?

A microbiologist and state representative.

And a fierce advocate for democracy have in common?

We're all suburban moms.

The far right is trying to win over suburban women by pretending they're reasonable, even relatable.

But we're smarter than that.

Join us for a political journey through the eyes of suburban women, one conversation at a time.

Welcome to the suburban women problem, a podcast from Red, Wine, and Blue.

Hi, everyone.

Thanks for joining us.

I'm Rachel Vindman.

I'm Jasmine Clark.

I'm Amanda Weinstein.

And you're listening to The Suburban Women Problem.

I think we're still recovering from the debate and what it means for the

election, but like we said last week, the stakes have not changed. From the bottom of the ballot to

the top, voting has never been more important. This week, we talked to Emily Amick, the co-author

of a new book called Democracy and Retrograde, which frames political involvement

of self-care. Sometimes politics feels like the exact opposite of self-care, but she's right that

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