Thanks to listen to Politics by Faith.

We did a special on the TV called The End of Wokeness.

So we took out from a more cultural perspective in the first two segments.

But now we'll talk with Professor Jacobson from Cornell about from a legal perspective

and what that could look like and how we get to this ultimate goal,

which is actually rooting wokeness out at its core. And then we'll

end with a little biblical take in our finale segment. Welcome back to politics by faith.

End of wokeness, question mark. But I don't want that question mark I just wanted a declarative

statement one day soon professor William Jacobson is here Cornell University law

professor founder of the website please make it part of your daily reading

legal insurrection and also the founder of the Equal Protection Project

Professor how are you sir good thanks for having me on. Glad you're here.

I'm discouraged. Help me with this. I'm discouraged on the legal fight against

wokeness. Should I be more encouraged? Or how should I be feeling about the status of it?

Well, I think it depends what your expectations are. If anybody expected this battle

to be won in six months or with eight executive orders, they were unrealistic. It's something we're in a

state now that has been multiple decades in the making. And I hopefully it won't take multiple more decades to

unwind it, but I think there's been a lot of progress. I think there was progress prior to Trump

2.0. I think that's one of the reasons he was elected, not the only reason, but one of them

was a backlash. And I think that a lot of what he's done in the first six months

has been very impactful, but nobody should have the expectation that, you know, by January

one next year, this is all over.

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