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politics by faith. We did a special on the TV called The End of Wokeness. So we took out from a more cultural perspective

in the first two segments. But now we'll talk with Professor Jacobson from Cornell about

from a legal perspective and what that could look like and how we get to this ultimate goal,

which is actually rooting wokeness out at its core. And then we'll end with a little biblical

take in our finale segment

welcome back to politics by faith end of wokeness question mark but I don't want that

question mark I just wanted a declarative statement one day soon. Professor William

Jacobson is here. Cornell University law professor, founder of the website. Please make it part of your

daily reading legal insurrection and also the founder of the Equal Protection Project. Professor,

how are you, sir? Good. Thanks for having me on. Glad you're here. I'm discouraged. Help me with this. I'm discouraged on the

legal fight against wokeness. Should I be more encouraged or how should I be feeling about the

status of it? Well, I think it depends what your expectations are. If anybody expected this

battle to be won in six months or with eight

executive orders, they were unrealistic. It's something we're in a state now that has been

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