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Chorley. This week I want to talk about people who do politics, but not as we know it, not the politicians or the think tanks, or even do I say at the journalist, but how does someone bring about change in policy or even the law but outside the political party system.

What role is technology playing in that and what should the response be to the rise in

youth engagement and the political process?

As ever do get in touch and let us know what you think of the podcast email red box at the

Times dot kowduk or tweet at times red box and no one's posted a review on iTunes

for ages so if you say something nice about us I'll give you a mention next week.

Right then down to business, my guests this week are David Babs from the online petition website

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