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🗓️ 29 November 2023
⏱️ 82 minutes
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Any Christian trying to formulate a political theology cannot afford to ignore the impressive work done by David VanDrunen over the past decade. In this long-ish interview, Kevin asks Dave about two kingdoms theology, natural law, the purpose of government, and the importance of the Noahic Covenant. Stick around and you'll also learn what VanDrunen means by "conservative liberalism" and "legal polycentrism." You'll also hear what Kevin and Dave would do (or not do) if they were starting a Presbyterian colony on Mars.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
2:30 Politics after Christendom
16:45 Covenants and Reformed Theology
31:10 Sponsor Break | Crossway
32:00 Does Christ Redeem Political Institutions?
36:00 Responding to Criticism
43:10 A Presbyterian Colony on Mars?
55:00 Does Government Protect, Perfect, or Provide?
1:03:40 Sponsor | DesiringGod
1:04:10 A Conservative Liberalism
1:11:10 Legal Polycentrism
1:20:55 Until Next Time
Books & Everything:
Politics after Christendom: Political Theology in a Fractured World
O Come, O Come, Emmanuel: A Liturgy for Daily Worship from Advent to Epiphany
Ask Pastor John: 750 Bible Answers to Life's Most Important Questions
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0:00.0 | Greetings and salutations. |
0:09.3 | Welcome to Life and Books and Everything. |
0:11.6 | I'm Kevin DeYoung, senior pastor at Christ, |
0:13.8 | Christ-Govern and Church in Matthews, North Carolina. |
0:17.3 | And today I am joined by my guest, David Van Drunin. Dave, thank you for being here. |
0:26.0 | You have a JD and a PhD, and you are the Professor of Systematic Theology and Christian Ethics at Westminster Seminary, California. |
0:35.9 | You have written a number of books around two kingdoms, |
0:40.8 | a natural law. And really, we're going to talk about the capstone to this project, |
0:46.6 | unless maybe there's more coming. But this book published just a couple of years ago, |
0:51.1 | Politics After Christendom, political theology in a fraction world. |
0:55.4 | So, Dave, thanks for getting up early there in California and joining us for Life and Books and |
1:01.1 | everything. |
1:01.8 | It's my pleasure. Thanks for having me. |
1:04.4 | So let me ask Van Drunen, sounds like a good Dutch name. |
1:09.3 | It is, yes. It's slightly Americanized like your Dutch name? It is, yes. |
1:11.3 | It's slightly Americanized like your Dutch name. |
1:15.2 | That is, I know. |
1:16.4 | But yes, it is a good Dutch name. |
1:18.7 | And where are the Van Drunans? |
1:20.8 | I know, so I was born in South Holland, Illinois, and I know the Van Drunans there. |
1:25.6 | Where are your Van Drunans from? |
1:28.3 | Well, if I didn't know you were from South Holland. That's very interesting. That is where the, |
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