Dan Littman joins us now from Politico.

Dan, your thoughts about Joe Biden and the media suddenly realizing he's got problems.

Yeah, I think it's a long time coming and the conservative media is kind of taking a victory lap because they say, hey, if you look at all these gaps he's had over the years that the signs were there but that it was

all crystallized with this debate performance and remember this was a debate that Biden wanted.

He wanted to, he wanted it very early because he is losing the swing

states, he's losing nationally and he has been since basically the start of this campaign.

And so he wanted to kind of change the narrative

and make some momentum and he was, it backfired on him.

So there's a couple of things going on right now.

This afternoon, some key senators meeting, especially those in tough fights like Montana,

in Pennsylvania, and in Michigan. They're going to be meeting behind closed doors to find about what their options are because Joe Biden is obviously not stepping away.

And right now, the House Caucus is meeting behind closed doors to decide where they're going.

Nine members, six publicly, the most high-ranking one that I know of is Adam Smith,

said that Joe Biden should step aside.

And then the question is is what would be next?

Kamal Harris is likely, I don't know how you step past her. They're talking about

having a have a Blitz primary where everyone pitches their wares. James

Carville comes, I have an idea of Clinton, Bill Clinton, and Brock Obama preside

over the top nominees, let them fight it out in some type of reality show situation where they pick a candidate and they

sprint to the finish against Donald Trump seems implausible. Your thoughts

about what's going to be different at the end of today as opposed to yesterday?

So we're going to try to, we're going to wait to see if there's any more Democrats who come

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