Political Tribalism: Hatreds We Love

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.5 • 772 Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2024

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Mike talks with Stephen J. Ducat, an author, political psychologist, psychoanalyst, and former psychology professor in the School of Humanities at New College of California. They discuss Professor Ducat’s most recent book, Hatreds We Love: The Psychology of Political Tribalism in Post-Truth America. Topics Mike and Stephen discuss include: - why tribal loyalty often overrides material self-interest - demonizing outsiders to reinforce in-group virtue - conservative disgust vs liberal disdain - the ‘malignant, intuitive genius’ of Donald Trump - the dark side of political purity - the importance of being morally multi-lingual The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. The Politics Guys is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:35.3	Love the government, hug the government, hug the government, love, the government, hug the government, love, the government, hug the government, love the government, hug the government. Welcome to the politics, guys, a place for bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy. I'm Northern Kentucky University political scientist, Michael Baranowski. My guest today is Stephen Jay Dukot, an author,
0:55.4	Political Psychologist, Psychoanalyst, and former psychology professor in the School of Humanities
1:00.8	at New College of California. He's also the author of the book, Hatreds We Love,
1:06.4	The Psychology of Political Tribalism in Post-Truth America, which we'll be discussing today.
1:12.8	Stephen Dukkah, welcome to the show.
1:15.0	Well, thank you for having me.
1:17.5	I love to start with titles.
1:19.1	And so that's where we're going to start here.
1:21.0	The title of your book, Hatreds We Love, and some people might say, well, that sounds like a paradox, but you don't see it as a
1:28.3	paradox. And I was hoping you could start by telling me why. Sure. Well, I would say that the
1:34.4	conjunction of hate and love is paradoxical, but only on the surface. Hating outsiders can make it
1:43.7	easier to love insiders.
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