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This is Words Matter with Norm Ornstein. It's the card they're playing right now because

they don't have a whole lot else. And Dr. Kavita Patel. I am more concerned in the way.

Hello, welcome to Words Matter from the DSR network. Each week, Norm Ornstein and I will

talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms, what our leaders

are saying and doing about them. Today, we're going to talk about especially people who

do not lead. We're going to touch on immigration. There's so many aspects to this, of course,

recently in the news. The spotlight has been put on Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida and

his literal busing of migrants who came to Florida to Martha's Vineyard to make a point.

We'll touch on that. And then in our bonus content for members only and we want to hopefully

poke you to join us as members. We will talk about Tish James and have a brief conversation

that hopefully we can expand upon in future episodes. So on with the show.

All right, Norm, I'm going to set this up because something that probably listeners

don't know. I've actually been part of, since I speak Spanish, I've been part of this

group that volunteers that used to just meet on Sundays when Governor Greg Abbott in

Texas was regularly sending and had proudly announced. And it's been almost a year, by

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