Welcome Nexters. This is next up. I'm Mark Halper, an editor-in-chief of the live interactive video platform two-way.

And I'm your guide through all the noise, through all the mist, all the confusion. My goal here, as always, very simple.

Skip over the talking point, skip the fake stuff, and get you what you need to know, to know what's actually happening now and what's

coming up. So you're three steps ahead of everybody else. I'd say at least three steps. I've got an

incredible guest today. Andrew Sullivan, really one of the most impressive people I know as a thinker,

as a writer. He's been doing it a very long time at a very high level. I recently was on his podcast.

I enjoyed it so much and delighted that Andrew will be here with us. We're going to talk about

AI, how he uses it in his life and how he sees it for the country. We're going to talk about this

concept and much discussed, the Epstein class. Who are they and what should be done about them?

And then I'm going to talk to him about the future of America.

He's thought a lot about what Donald Trump has done to the country from his point of

view.

We're going to talk about who he would be his ideal to come next.

Before we talk to Andrew, though, I've been doing a lot of reporting lately on what I think

is one of the most

undercovered stories, both now in the context of the Epstein files, but also as we think about

people running for president in 2028, a topic we talk about here quite a bit, of course. I'm

going to take you inside my reporting, both that I've done this week, but also that I've been doing

for a very long time around the Epstein files, and then going all the way back to the start of my career covering national politics

is the shifting standards, sometimes a double standard, sometimes even a triple standard that

seems to apply in different ways to different people in public life when it comes to scandal,

controversy, disclosure.

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