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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Political power and the racial wealth gap

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.5 • 11.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2018

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

The racial wealth gap is where past injustice compounds into present inequality. When I asked Ta-Nehisi Coates, on this show, what would prove to him that white supremacy was over in this country, he pointed to the closing of the racial wealth gap. The numbers here are startling. In 2016, the median white family in America had $171,000 in wealth. The median black family had just $17,400. Put differently, for every dollar in wealth the average white family has, the average black family has a dime. And the chasm is growing. One of the first episodes of Vox’s new Netflix show, Explained, explores the roots, realities, and future of America’s racial wealth gap. This conversation continues the discussion with one of the key voices in that episode: Mehrsa Baradaran, a law professor at the University of Georgia and author of the extraordinary book The Color of Money: Black Banks and the Racial Wealth Gap. Baradaran focuses on a part of the American story that’s often ignored: the way African Americans were locked out of the financial engines that create wealth in America, and the way the rhetoric of equal treatment under the law was weaponized, as soon as slavery ended, against efforts to achieve economic equality. But Baradaran’s view isn’t just historical: she’s also studied the way African Americans are disproportionately unbanked and underbanked today, and has been advising Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand’s efforts to do something big and surprising to solve it: building a nationwide postal banking system. The issues discussed in this episode are, I think, some of the most important facing America right now, and Baradaran’s perspective is unusual in its marriage of analytical rigor, historical analysis, real solutions, and deep compassion. This is worth listening to. Recommended books: The Human Instinct by Kenneth R. Miller Master of the Senate by Robert Caro Feel Free by Zadie Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Freedom doesn't mean anything unless you have wealth or land.

0:07.0

Hello, I have got news.

0:18.6

Big news.

0:19.6

Box has a Netflix show.

0:21.4

I laugh because that's an amazing thing to say.

0:24.4

It's called Explain and the reason I am excited about it is not just that it's a Netflix

0:28.5

show.

0:29.5

It's that it's one of the best things we've ever done.

0:31.6

It is as pure a distillation of what we are trying to do here with explainer journalism

0:35.5

as we have ever been able to produce.

0:38.3

Each episode of explained chooses a big topic.

0:41.2

Something that matters in people's lives.

0:42.7

It drives daily headlines.

0:43.7

It shapes the world we live in.

0:45.7

And we dive in to try to understand the big picture of it.

0:49.5

So much of what we do in the media is narrow and ephemeral and about whatever just happened.

0:54.6

We have such a recency bias.

0:57.0

This show is an effort to get out of that.

0:59.2

It's about the things in our world that are important and not just new.

1:03.7

The first three episodes are up now.

1:05.0

There's one on designer DNA, CRISPR and gene editing and the question of how we're taking

1:09.4

charge of human evolution ourselves.

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