Hello listeners.

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... Trick or treat.

And welcome to Politic's Nurdcast.

I'm Scott Bland, your host.

Got a bit of a spooky episode on tap for you this week

as we game out some political nightmare scenarios.

Heading into 2020, what are Democrats most worried about?

The fact that Donald Trump could win re-election,

I think a possibility that a lot of people have avoided grappling with on that side of the aisle so far, but we got

a piece looking at exactly that, we're going to talk to the author.

We're also going to talk to one of our reporters about Republicans' biggest nightmare scenario.

Donald Trump not only losing, but losing big because he's leaked support from some key

constituencies that have buoyed him up till now.

We've got some new polling and new reporting on that as well.

But first, we're going to talk to

political legal affairs contributor Josh Gerstein

about a different sort of spooky story.

He's going to tell us about the legal exposure

for a man really tied up in the middle of everything that's gone on with the Trump administration

over the last few years, but especially the recent developments and investigations into Ukraine.

And that's his personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani. Josh, good to see you.

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