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The Politics Guys

Political Ideologies: Fascism

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.4783 Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2026

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

In this supporter-exclusive midweek episode, Trey is joined by Justin, and they conclude their exploration of the classic political ideologies with a deep dive into Fascism. On this week’s show, Trey and Justin discuss: Fascism’s rejection of reason and its rejection of Enlightenment rationality. The centrality of violence and struggle as an enduring premise of fascism. How fascism holds the past as idyllic goal that that will lead to greatness in response to a degenerate modernity. Fascism’s rejection of democracy with a specific focus on Carl Schmitt’s critique parliamentary democracy in which Schmitt argues that a singular leader can be more authentic to a peoples will than a process of voting. The Politics Guys on ⁠Facebook⁠ | ⁠X⁠ Trey’s Substack on the Federalist Papers Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at⁠patreon.com/politicsguys⁠ or⁠ politicsguys.com/support⁠. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. The Politics Guys is part of⁠ The Democracy Group⁠, a network of podcasts that examines what’s broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Atheists, agnostics, long-haired, winters, short-haired winters, van der Leagues.

0:05.9

I'm the government, hot the government, love, the government, how to the politics, guys.

0:11.4

I'm Trey Orndorff, a political scientist at Oklahoma Christian University,

0:14.5

and I'm joined by Justin Holmes, a professor of political science at the University of Northern Iowa,

0:19.9

for our supporters' exclusive

0:21.8

midweek show on fascism. Justin, welcome to fascism. That's ominous. It's good to be here in

0:28.6

fascism. What a bonus to throw at people. Well, I mean, look, I mean, we're starting with fascism,

0:34.7

but as you pointed out to us, as we were kind of prepping for

0:38.4

the show, there are, maybe there are some benefits to fascism? You had this phenomenal little

0:44.3

clip that I thought we need to share with listeners. I mean, say what you want about the

0:51.3

tenets of national socialism, dude. At least it's an ethos.

0:54.8

No.

0:57.0

Spring.

0:57.5

Right.

0:57.8

At least it's an ethos, right?

1:01.0

I mean, it's not like we're dealing with something irrational or, you know, maybe, who knows?

1:06.3

It's not nihilism.

1:07.9

It could be nihilism.

1:09.8

So here on, there's positives. There's positives. It's not nihilism. It could be nihilism.

1:18.0

So here on, there's positives, the positives of ultranationalism here today.

1:18.5

No, just either. Ethos, there's snappy dressers.

1:21.7

Well, listen, there's some really good coordinated dancing.

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