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Hello and welcome to the Slate Political Gab Fest for February 9th, 2017, the Nevertheless She Persisted Edition.

I'm David Plotz of Atlas Obscura.

Joining me here in Washington, D.C., is, of course, John Dickiggerson of Face the Nation. Howdy, John? Howdy. And from her cubicle, not her cubicle, her cubicle, her cubby. It's anything but a cubicle. What's the term? I just lost the term. It's a wild office. Her Heidi hole in New Haven. It's a womb of comfort and warmth. Is Emily Bazelon of the New York Times Magazine. Hello. Hi, guys. What's up? Oh, you know, Thursday morning. Actually, super amounts of snow blowing outside my window. Oh, that's it's up. That's nice. There was none in Washington. Yeah, it's no Washington. Washington got bypassed. On this week's

GabFest, the legal fight over President Trump's immigration refugee ban. Then the confirmation

battles over Betsy DeVos and Jeff Sessions and Elizabeth Warren's spectacular grandstanding therein, then Saturday Night Live

versus Trump does the spat over comedy of the portrayal of people in the administration.

This is important.

Does it matter?

Can it shape public opinion and policy?

Plus, we'll have cocktail chatter.

And for Slate Plus, should you go to the White House correspondent's dinner?

Should you, listener?

John, did you literally yawn at that question?

That Slate Plus question?

You literally yawn.

I think we've talked about this before.

I know.

I'm remembering that we've already all distanced ourselves from the White House Correspondents dinner.

Well, should we instead talk about 1968?

Sure.

Sure.

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