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Hello and welcome to the Slate Political Gab Fest for Friday, October 2nd.

I'm John Dickerson in Washington with David Plotz.

Emily Bazelon is in New Haven in a radio studio that looks like it's from 1972.

We're going to talk today about health care is going to be our first topic.

Second topic is going to be guns and an extremely important Supreme Court case that

Emily is going to talk about while David and I get a coffee. And then the third is going to be

a ridiculous article in Newsmax, which is a kind of slightly ridiculous thing that David wants to talk about.

So, health care, Emily, you were exercised about this for what reason?

I was really interested in the amendment that Oren Hatch introduced this week to try and

prevent the bill, the health care reform bill from funding any abortions.

And it's deemed earlier in the Senate Finance Committee, which has been finishing its work.

Go ahead.

Thank you.

And it was voted down 13 to 10, correct?

Correct.

If you say so, yes.

Okay.

Olympia Snow's switched parties and voted against the amendment and Ben Nelson switched parties and voted for

it. And it was the best. I don't think it's switching parties. I just think you vote against it.

Right. They didn't vote for it. It's not like every amendment has a party. They also moved,

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