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Music podcast contains explicit language. Hello and welcome to the Slate Political Gab Fest for July 5th, 2013, the Is Hillary

Too Old Edition, Too Old What?

Too old to be president, I guess.

I'm David Plotz, the editor of Slate. I'm joined in the jungle-like confines of the Slate DC studio. It's actually quite cool now, but as a show gets going, it's going to get hotter and hotter and hotter in here, and we will sweat. And I'm going to end up taking off my shirt, which will please Slate's chief political correspondent, John Dickerson. Hello, John. Hi, David. Why are you

abumbing people out the minute they tune in with images of you sweating shirtless? Although I guess for some people that could be. For some people, that could be their dream come true on the 4th of July weekend. The Bazz is on vacation this week, sadly. No, actually happily for her. And then happily for us. We have a special guest first time, Gab Fester, Garan's Frankie

Ruttig, who is the senior editor at the Atlantic. Welcome, Garantz. Thank you. It's really going to get hot. You should prepare. That jacket will be coming off. All right. And I don't say that in like a bedroom kind of way. It's just like the jacket's going to be coming on. It's just going to be hot. Washington giveth and Washington taketh away. Last week we had a surfeit of amazing GabFest topics. This week we had to improvise. The events in Egypt are moving a little bit too fast, too out of control for us to deal with. So we are going to skip that. By the time this airs the Egyptian military may, in fact, be in control of this show. That would be kind of cool. What do you think we would do with an Egyptian military show? It would be less talk about Mike D's apartment. More talk about the Jews? We already have. Yeah, I was going to say... We already have so much talking about the Jews.

You couldn't...

You could not top.

The perspective would be different.

Yeah, right.

Different talk about the Jews.

This week we will gavel about the immigration bill, which has moved on to the House.

Then we will talk about whether Hillary Clinton is just way, way, way too old to be

president. And a wildcard topic. It is the 150th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg. I

convinced, persuaded, compelled John and Garantz to join me in considering what that battle and what

the Civil War has to teach us about today,

what it takes for a nation to overcome a civil war.

And of course, we'll have cocktail chatter.

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