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Political Gabfest

Political Gabfest - Ministerial Exception

Political Gabfest

Slate Podcasts

Politics, News, Government

4.6242 Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2020

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Emily, John and David discuss Biden's understated presidential campaign, the new Supreme Court decisions, and Hamilton.


Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:


Jamelle Bouie for The New York Times: “Maybe This Isn’t Such a Good Time to Prosecute a Culture War


David Weigel for The Washington Post: “The Trailer: Who's Afraid of Joe Biden?


Michael W. McConnell for the New York Times: “On Religion, the Supreme Court Protects the Right to Be Different


Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings: An American Controversy by Annette Gordon-Reed


The New York Times Magazine: “The 1619 Project


Winds of Change podcast


Here are this week’s cocktail chatters:


Emily: Sea Wife by Amity Gaige; “426 Years: An Examination of 25 Wrongful Convictions

in Brooklyn, New York


John: Jake Rossen for Mental Floss: “10 Examples of the Mandela Effect”; Chess.com: “What is Zugzwang?” 

 

David: Meghann Myers for Military Times: “Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, Who Testified Against Trump, Announces Retirement From the Army


Listener chatter from Emmy Rald @RaldEmmy: Phoebe Weston for The Guardian: “‘Landscape of Fear’: What a Mass of Rotting Reindeer Carcasses Taught Scientists


Slate Plus members get a bonus segment on the Gabfest each week, and access to special bonus episodes throughout the year. Sign up now to listen and support our show.

For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment David and Emily discuss the shaming of wealthy companies that took Paycheck Protection Program loans.


You can tweet suggestions, links, and questions to @SlateGabfest. Tweet us your cocktail chatter using #cocktailchatter. (Messages may be quoted by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)

 

The email address for the Political Gabfest is gabfest@slate.com. (Email may be quoted by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)


Podcast production by Jocelyn Frank.

Research and show notes by Bridgette Dunlap.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to this late political gab fest for July 9th, 2020, the ministerial exception edition.

0:13.9

I am David Plotz of Business Insider.

0:16.9

I'm in Vermont, New England, not in Washington, D.C. I'm out of the Heidi hole. I'm in an airy,

0:25.6

airy upstairs room in Vermont, which is a blessed relief, although still really sweaty.

0:32.4

Joining me from New Haven, also in New England, from her office is Emily Bazelon at the New York Times Magazine

0:39.6

and Yale University Law School. Hello, Emily.

0:42.6

Hello. I just want to make it clear it is my home office in which I perch because I don't

0:47.3

think I'm really allowed into my law school office and I don't want to seem like I am breaking

0:52.1

the rules.

0:56.1

And never a rule breaker.

0:57.7

Emily Bazelon is not a rule breaker.

0:59.3

Not in that regard in particular.

1:04.5

She's very dutiful towards the public health demands made by the authorities of Connecticut.

1:11.8

And John Diggerson of CBS at 60 Minutes, who is probably also in New England. I think he's in Connecticut.

1:12.9

Hello, John.

1:18.1

You guys have migrated in my direction. I like that. And it's good you're not on the Connecticut shoreline because two million pounds of sewage dumped from the Mill River into the Long Island

1:24.2

Sound right off of Brantford, Connecticut, and the beaches are closed. As if there

1:28.7

weren't enough things, bad things happening in the world. That seems like a good reason to close

1:33.6

beaches. Although really, two million pounds of sewage in the grand scheme of the ocean doesn't

1:38.3

seem like very much. It feels like that will disperse. Three days of closed beaches for two million

1:41.6

pounds of raw sewage. I think that's the trade.

2:18.2

667,000 pounds a day. All right. On today's Gab Fest, the very strange unfolding of this presidential campaign. We have President Trump's grievance politics. We have his attempts to hold rallies still. He's going to have one in New Hampshire. We have a raging pandemic. We have a fight over voting who gets to vote. And then we have Joe Biden, who I hear tell is the Democratic nominee for president. But who could say? Who's seen him? Haven't seen him. We will talk about the absent presidential candidacy of Joe Biden and whether that's a great strategy to be absent. Then the Supreme Court wraps up really

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