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Political Gabfest | Kill Them All

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss why the killing of survivors in a US military strike on an alleged drug boat is so dangerous for Pete Hegseth and the Trump administration, what the results of this week’s special election in Tennessee could portend for the upcoming midterms, and the adoption of self-driving cars as a public health measure. For this week’s Slate Plus bonus episode, Emily, John, and David discuss the complexities of free speech, academic freedom, and consequences in the controversial case of a University of Oklahoma instructor who was put on leave after complaints from a student who flunked a gender essay.   In the latest Gabfest Reads, John talks with journalist and author Andrew Ross Sorkin about his new book, 1929: Inside the Greatest Crash in Wall Street History and How It Shattered a Nation — the story of speculation, debt, and the human drives that fueled the Wall Street crash that changed everything.   Email your chatters, questions, and comments to [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)   Podcast production by Nina Porzucki   Research by Emily Ditto You can find the full Political Gabfest show pages here.   Want more Political Gabfest? Join Slate Plus to unlock weekly bonus episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the Political Gabfest show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or visit slate.com/gabfestplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to this late political GabFest.

0:11.6

December 4th, 2025, the Kill Them All Edition.

0:20.3

I'm David Plotz of Citycast in Washington, D.C., from New Haven, Connecticut, where she is with

0:26.6

The New York Times Magazine and teaches at Yale University Law School and exists is Emily

0:34.0

Bazelon.

0:35.5

Hey!

0:37.2

What were you doing there? You were this. You were looking down at something. I was not looking down. You made me up my game for, I was not in prayer. All right, I'm going to keep to myself what I was doing. I was going to tell you, but no, I'm not going to. No, tell us. Tell us what you were doing. Oh, well, you have made me think I should up my game for cocktail chatter, so I was getting that already. Nice. How's that? Oh, I love it. I love it. From New York City, John Dickerson, co-ancher of the CBS Evening News. Hello, John. Hello, David. Hello, Emily. Although, strictly speaking, I'm not in New York. I am in a hotel in Washington where I came down just for a very fast participation in the

1:16.6

70th anniversary of Face the Nation.

1:18.6

I didn't even come to say hello to you, David, because I'm going to be back on a train instantaneously.

1:23.6

So Face the Nation is exactly 50 years older than the GabFest.

1:34.1

Well, it's a little, it's actually 71 years old, but they postponed the party for a variety of reasons.

1:37.7

So it's, it's close.

1:39.2

Wow.

1:40.0

Yeah.

1:41.9

I know that was really important.

1:42.6

I'm moving on.

1:43.6

That was a great story.

1:44.8

Great story. Yeah, exactly. And then I found $ was really important. I'm moving on. That was a great story. Great story.

1:45.2

Yeah, and then I found $5.

1:48.8

This week on the Gab Fest, did America commit a war crime when it murdered the survivors

1:54.6

clinging to the wreckage after one of Trump's Caribbean drug boat strikes?

2:00.4

And if we did commit a war crime, who should bear the

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