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🗓️ 21 August 2022

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

David Plotz talks with author Mat Johnson about his new novel Invisible Things. Johnson’s novel tells the story of a group of astronauts that land in a bubble colony on Jupiter's biggest moon.

They talk about the challenges of writing satire when reality feels fake, how mediocre people rise up by sucking up, and why we need to look at the invisible things in our daily lives.  


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Gap Fest Reads.

0:08.6

For August 2022, it's the Invisible Things edition I'm David Plot of CityCast, I'm in

0:14.4

Washington DC, and I am joined today on Gap Fest Reads by Matt Johnson.

0:20.8

Matt and I are going to talk about his wild, strange, and very funny, new, novel, visible

0:26.8

things.

0:27.8

It's the night chair of humanities at the University of Oregon, and he's the author of

0:32.2

books of nonfiction, graphic novels, and novels, including him and Loving Day, Loving

0:37.8

Day being an Emily Bazzlon, favorite Matt, welcome to Gap Fest Reads.

0:42.0

Congratulations on Invisible Things.

0:43.8

Hey, nice to meet you.

0:48.6

So Invisible Things is an allegorical novel about New Roanoke, a city inside a bubble

0:54.0

located on a moon of Jupiter, a US spaceship discovers New Roanoke, which turns out to

0:59.6

be a pleasant facsimile of an American city, complete with all the fast food outlets of

1:05.4

the home planet, but populated entirely by people who are inexplicably kidnapped from

1:10.5

Earth and woke up on New Roanoke.

1:13.0

New Roanoke has a governing party, it has a fox-like TV network, it has lots of economic

1:18.0

inequality, and is sustained by shipments of goods that appear to come from nowhere.

1:25.0

The story of Invisible Things is about the tumult unleashed when a pair of American

1:30.3

spaceships and their crews arrive at New Roanoke, and what happens then, and it's an extremely

1:37.6

funny and political and ominous kind of book, more so even than my brief summary suggests.

1:44.8

So Matt, first of all, it reminded me, as I'm sure more remind everyone who reads it

1:48.9

of a book I have not read since high school, which is Oliver's Travels, was that an inspiration

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