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Hello and welcome to this edition of Slate Gabfest reads I'm John Dickerson

we are talking today about new Cold Wars China's rise Russia's invasion and

America struggle to defend the West and is

the China's rise, Russia's invasion and America's struggle to defend the West. And the author is David Sanger, who is the White House

and National Security Correspondent for the New York Times,

best-selling author of previous books, The Inheritance, Confront and Conceal, The Perfect Weapon,

also on three Pulitzer Prize winning teams and someone I spent a long time covering various White Houses with.

David, it's great to be with you.

John, great to be back with you.

I have thoroughly enjoyed this book.

It seems like it comes out at the perfect time

and we'll get to why I think it's perfect but let's let's go back in

history a little bit I want to start if we could with the period before the

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