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Hello and welcome to the Slate Political Gab Fest, Gab Fest Extra for May the 5th, 2017, the health care, the ACCA returns GabFest, the GabFest Extra on Trump

care, on Ryan Care, on the end of Obamacare, if it is, in fact, the end of ObamaCare.

I'm David Plotz of Atlas Obscura.

I'm here in Washington, D.C.

John Dickerson of CBS's Face the Nation is on

the phone. He's somewhere else. And Emily Bazelon of the New York Times Magazine is in her home

hobbit hole of New Haven. Hi, guys. How are you? Hey. So, Emily, let's start with you.

Yesterday, as we were taping the regular show, the House was preparing to vote on the revised repeal of Obamacare.

And they voted, and with a narrow majority, House Republicans passed a repeal bill that will now go to the Senate.

So were you surprised that they were able to get a majority to do this after they had apparently failed six weeks ago?

I guess I was surprised like in the beginning of last week that this seemed to have real momentum.

By the time it passed, it seemed like that was what was going to happen.

I mostly just find this, like, profoundly dispiriting.

I have to say, I really feel sorrow about the state of the nation.

I mean, look, this bill probably, I suppose,

in its current form will not become law. But it was rushed through in such an irresponsible

fashion. It has the power to hurt millions of people. And I just kind of can't believe that

that this is where the country is.

And the idea of taking a trillion dollars from low-income and middle-class people

and giving it back to the wealthiest few over health insurance,

I felt like I was watching the extension of the conservative,

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