The leak of a draft Supreme Court ruling overturning the Roe v. Wade abortion decision is sending shock waves throughout the United States. For decades, right-wing activists kept the fight against ‘Roe’ at the heart of America’s culture wars. Carrie Severino is the president of one such organization: the Judicial Crisis Network, a conservative legal advocacy group. She claims the draft ruling accomplishes many of her life's ambitions and she joins Christiane from Arlington, Virginia. Severino is followed by Gloria Steinem, who's been at the forefront of defending Roe v. Wade since the beginning. She sees the Supreme Court ruling as a threat not just to women, but to American democracy.  Also on today's show: Jonathan Powell, former Chief of Staff to former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who dealt face-to-face with Vladimir Putin many times; and Bill Gates, who discusses his new book, How to Prevent the Next Pandemic. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices