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This is the Tom Harbin program.

Welcome back Tom Harbin program, I'm Jefferson Smith.

Eli Merritt, it's a political historian at Vanderbilt University who specializes in the founding

era of the United States as the author of the recently released disunion among ourselves,

the perilous politics of the American Revolution. He also writes a newsletter on substack called

American Commonwealth, whereas latest article can be found. Why June 10th matters far more than

the fourth of July. Eli Merritt, thanks for joining us.

Great to be with you.

Why do we care about the American Revolution so many years after, man, it's like old news.

In a way it's old news but of course our society is undergoing dramatic changes currently

and history is an ever evolving phenomenon and I am not alone in believing that the narrative

of a people or the narrative of a country is where is or can be quite essential to the state

of affairs that we live in today. So I would say that as you may know the historiography or the way

we've looked at history over approximately the past 200 years until recently has been through

a heroic lens. We've idolized the founding period and it worked and it helped us for some period

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